One thing that I have not seen mentioned is the copyright of these logo's. In order to maintain the trademarks they must be used. If they are left dormant too long then they may be lost. I think, truth be told, this is UP's way of simply maintaining there trademarks. I seriously doubt they have a lot of concern for the railroad enthusiasts. I could be wrong, would be the first time, but I bet it's a legal move to ensure trademarks are kept in place. Tim - ----- Original Message ----- From: <Njricky2_@_aol.com> To: <schuyler.larrabee_@_verizon.net>; <erielack@lists.railfan.net> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 02:05 Subject: Re: (erielack) Slgihtly off-topic... > Sorry SGL but I don't see where Union Pacific is attempting to trademark the > American flag. As you say, with their legions of attorneys, they're not > stupid. > > I also don't get this whole bruhaha that you've presented. If there was a > question about modeling companies, trademarks, etc., et al, the logos of UP for > example belong to them because they acquired those railway companies, lock, > stock and the barrels along the lines. The modeling companies should have seen > this coming and been prepared for it. > > I am not a lawyer but your words appear to be more emotional than factual. > Mind you, no criticism here, as when it comes to the railroads we are all > emotional in one way or another. > > I see nothing wrong with retro paint and I'd like to see more of it, incuding > NS, CSX and CPRail doing their thing on the eastern end of the continent, not > to mention CN doing the same in WI, QC, ON, SK and AT. > > Perhaps you and others know more than I do, but remember, UP, CSX, NS, BNSF, > CPRail aren't just railroads. They are corporations and they are in the > business of making money in whatever way they can and they do. > > If UP is using retro paint for the reasons that you and others presented, > again, they do it for their reasons and their reasons are corporate reasons. If > we look closely, the retro paint is nothing more than a 21st Century image of > what once was. > > MoPac blue is not the same hue, although the eagle logo is damn close. WP > black and orange is real close if not nearly perfect but more defined than the > independent WP paint ever was. WP paint was much more dusty. Let's see what UP > does with CNW, MKT, SP and DRGW. Funny but I always thought that CNW would > survive on its own. That's another story that will be kicked around. > > I'd give anything to see 21st Century motive power in Erie retro paint, along > with Erie's natural western partner, Santa Fe. Retro paint on those two roads > would be nothing less than awesome. > > Taking what UP is doing in 2005, can anyone imagine Erie and Santa Fe in 21st > Century motive power and retro colors meeting at their natural midway point, > Chicago? Nothing less than awesome. > > Yes, SGL, I also have an emotional side. > > All the best, > > Rick > > > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List > Sponsored by the ELH&TS > http://www.elhts.org > > The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------
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