Paul Brezicki's comments about the UPS traffic that CX-99 picked up in Port Jervis are "spot on", as the British would say. My rough understanding of UPS operations in the 70s is that trailers left UPS "sorting hubs" in the 11 PM to 2 AM range loaded with packages picked up during the day by the familiar brown vans, sorted for common destination (i.e., another hub where the packages would be sorted for local delivery). A trailer could leave Stratford or even Hartford around 1 am and make it to Port by 4, giving at least 3 hours to tie the trailers down at the small drive-on ramp and be ready for CX-99 at around 7. From Boston, a trailer would have to leave by 10 PM, somewhat early for UPS. I don't think the Port Jervis traffic was very heavy; the handful of times I saw the pickup, it was only 2 to 4 flats with 4 to 8 trailers. So yes, the Port Jervis TOFC pickup for CX-99 was most logically from southern Connecticut points. I have made the correction on my westbound symbols list. I appreciate comments and corrections like this, so as to make the symbols list more accurate and informative. If I'm missing any regular symboled run from any phase of the EL's lifespan, I'd appreciate knowing about that too. Not long ago I found out that I had missed a lot of very early EL symbols like LI-98 and XC-75; have since tried to correct for that. Regarding Mr. Brezicki and Mr. Burts' comments about the effect of Interstate 80 on the EL, that is certainly an important contributing factor to keep in mind regarding the EL's demise. I-80 was opened across Pennsylvania in late 1970, and the western stretch in New Jersey was opened in 1973. (I well remember the detour via Route 46 east from the Gap after a hard day railfanning in Pennsylvania; how could one ever forget scenic Buttzville and Great Meadows at dusk.) The immediate effect was probably on TOFC traffic, especially the Plan 1 traffic discussed by Mr. Brezicki. By 1974, NY-99 and NY-100 were largely UPS trains, not much different from CX-99 and 2-NY-100. But in the 1960s, NY-99 and NY-100 carried traffic from a variety of motor carriers, including Navajo (as mentioned), Cooper-Jarrett and Spector Freight. (IIRC, Spector bought a fairly large block of EL common stock in the early 60s, possibly because of its interest in TOFC services). Had the EL held on to that traffic somehow, there arguably would have been a third set of daily TOFC runs between CX and 51st Street in the 70s. (There was a third TOFC w/b in the mid 70s, ACX-99, but I believe it only ran three days per week). And conversely, had the EL not held on to UPS traffic, CX-99 probably would have been abolished and NY-99 would have become a mixed TOFC / general freight train, as NY-97 / NY-77 were in the 60s. (In the 70s, NY-97 carried less and less TOFC, being pretty much all boxcar / misc freight / autos by 1974). Jim Gerofsky The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org ------------------------------
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