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RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Long Distance Passenger equipment in theEL era

The arched windows seemed to give them an appearance that made them look
older than what they were.  I remember seeing a few of these cars on a
Sussex Branch excursion attached to the regular Saturday afternoon
Branchville train in the late 1950s.  I thought they were odd looking
then.

Ed


- -----Original Message-----
From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
[mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org] On Behalf Of William Shultz
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:13 PM
To: Walter Smith
Cc: njmidland_@_peoplepc.com; erielack@lists.railfan.net
Subject: Re: (erielack) Lackawanna Long Distance Passenger equipment in
theEL era

Walter,

Those would have been the former Lackawanna 238-245 coaches (nee 38-45) 
which when originally rebuilt had lounge and coach seating. They were 
rebuilt in 1938 for the Lackawanna Limited so in a sense they where the 
predecessor Phoebe Snow coaches. At the time of rebuilding the double 
width, arched windows were added. Later in the early 1940's the lounge 
section was removed and replaced with reclining seats making them once 
again straight coaches of 40 or 46 passenger seating capacity (due to 
more capacity needed because of WWII?). All were air conditioned in the 
1930's.

Their heritage isn't far off from what you suggest, they were built in 
1918 as regular mainline steel coaches with paired albeit rectangular 
windows. As noted, the arched windows were added during the 1938
rebuilding.

Regards,

Will Shultz

Walter Smith wrote:
> Hard to say, Tim....
>   I remember when I was in the USAF (1955-59) & had to travel from my 
> home (near Scranton) to Youngstown, Ohio. I'd go to Scranton & take
the 
> DL&W to Binghamton, then the ERIE to Youngstown. The train on the DL
was 
> NOT the Phoebe Snow, but well run. Interesting thing was - the coaches

> were modified 'oldies'. The windows were double-wide with an arched 
> upper part. Kind of like the old fotos of the DL&W trains leaving 
> Hoboken in the gay 90s & early 1900s.
> Walt Smith
> 

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