Yes, it was about the same time as the NYSW pulled out of Jersey City. Inbound Northern trains had to back the length of Croxton Yard to reach the Bergen County Line, then could move forward using the connection to the DLW that was built for the Bergen County Line. Revived service on the Northern still could not get into Hoboken. - --- Hoboken <hoboken_@_vfemail.net> wrote: > Thanks for the update. > > Does anyone recall the dates when the Northern Branch trains finally > moved to Hoboken? Was that the same time that the Susquehanna > terminated its trains at Susquehanna Transfer? I remember that there > used to be a shove move of quite some distance when Northern Branch > trains first moved to Hoboken, but an interchange was built. Where was > teh interchange, and when was it built? > > May one assume that, if NJT wished to revive commuter service on the > Northern Branch, it would be possible to go straight into Hoboken? > > How far north does the Northern Branch track go today? > > > Ken Bush > > Dad wrote: > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > Ken, > > As best I can remember, we began our runs out of Hoboken. By the > > > time I got there(1962-63), ALL trains ran from Hoboken. MT equipment > > for some trains backed out of the trminal & down the hill at Grove St. > > > tower then went to JC for the layover during the day. > > Leaving in the afternoon, we'd go thru the tunnel & West End > > tower'd put us up the former ERIE mainline from which there was a > > reverse move down the hill onto the Northern line. We'd head North on > > what appeared to be double track (one of which I understood to be the > > property of the Susquehanna) until we came to an old cinderblock > > construction tower, long abandoned, and at this point the Susquehanna > > track swung away to the left while we continued on up the Northern. > > The name of the tower just hit me - GRANTON JUNCTION. It must have > > belonged to the Susquehanna. I don't remember any ERIE towers that > > looked like that. > > As for the Susquehanna Transfer, we didn't make any stops there. > > The oldhead engineer pointed it out to me, but that was it. This is > > written after 40 or so years, but to the best of my memory, that's how > > > it was. There were a lot of changes going on, so there may have been > > backup moves, but I didn't participate in any. We ran engine first all > > > the way into Hoboken except for the move at west End from the Northern > > > onto the ERIE mainline which was a reverse move coming & going. Think > > about it.............ur headed railroad East on the Northern (on the > > way to Hoboken) then u have to do a reverse move onto the ERIE, so u'd > > > still be headed RR East. No need for a backup move into the terminal. > > Regards, > > Walter E. Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Hoboken <mailto:hoboken_@_vfemail.net> > > *To:* Dad <mailto:wsmith5957_@_hotmail.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 31, 2004 3:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: (erielack) Re: Erie in Nyack > > > > Walter, > > When you worked that Northern Branch run, do you recall whether > > passenger loads were decent? Since the Susie-Q terminated its > > trains at Susquehanna Transfer, did you pick up many passengers > > who chose to take the train to Hoboken rather than take the bus > > through the Lincoln Tunnel? > > > > When you worked that run, did you have to make a shove move into > > the Hoboken terminal, or had an interchange been built to avoid > > that? I understand that, after the move to Hoboken, both Northern > > Branch and Susquehanna trains still went to Jersey City. Then, > > after the Susie-Q decided to stop at Susquehanna Transfer, the > > Northern Branch trains pulled onto the Erie Main headed westbound, > > and then backed into Hoboken. Who protected the rear for that > > shove move? Were radios in use then? Or did whoever protected > > the rear use the signal cord to pass info to the cab? How did the > > man on the rear indicate "slow" and give distances to the stop in > > the station? Or did they use hand signals? > > > > > > Happy New Year, > > > > Ken Bush > > > > Dad wrote: > > > >>Vince & all; > >> Great fotos of an old 900 class at Nyack............I don't know if u > >>caught the post I did on sleeping in the Nyack station in 1961 or 62. > I'd > >>caught the job (one of 3 jobs) off the firemens xtra list for a week > when > >>the regular man was on vacation. It was in the fall & pretty cool so I > asked > >>the station agent if it's OK for me to sleep in the station. He let > me in & > >>then locked up. He woke me the nexxt morning & I checked the engine > over & > >>worked the job to Hoboken & back. There was no diner or anything near > the > >>station & the few bars even then were very 'yuppified' - I felt I'd be > kind > >>of out of place in my denim jacket & work clothes. I think I got a > sandwich > >>to go at Shaeffers in Hoboken & ate that in the old Nyack depot before > >>reclining on one of the benches in the waiting room. > >> The first night as I said, I wandered around looking for a > diner or > >>restaurant, & recall there being a Mrecedes dealership a block or 2 > away. > >>That set the tone for the town. The Northern line was a neat job, but > unless > >>u lived nearby, it was kind of lonely. Looking at the station foto, I > >>realize now how the mind plays tricks on u. I always had in my mind > that the > >>NYACK depot had walls of fieldstone. It appears to be stucco. > >> Other thoughts.........Happy New Year to all of u on the list. > I had > >>my tinplate layout under the tree (0-27) with an EMD switcher painted > in > >>ERIE colors & numbered 452 for one of the engines that rattled around > the > >>Binghamton area & on which I spent many a cold night. The caboose is a > DL&W > >>gray with the cupola toward the rear. Does this make it a Keyser > Valley > >>caboose? I never really noticed the difference. I have several 'snow > >>village' lighted houses, church, business, but the only station looks > like a > >>Lehigh Valley one. It's neat to put out the lights & see the little > EMD > >>pulling a 6 or 7 car consist. Kind of reminds me of the 'over the > river' job > >>as they called the crew that left Conklin yard & & at West BD left > the EL > >>mainline & worked the industries on the former DL&W mainline as far > as > >>Vestal. > >> I wish u all a Happy & prosperous New Year. > >>Regards to all, > >>Walter E. Smith > >>employee #102156 > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Vincent Lee" <vincejlee_@_yahoo.com> > >>To: "Mailist ErieLackawnna" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net> > >>Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:02 PM > >>Subject: (erielack) Re: Erie in Nyack > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. > >>>To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the > following > >>> > >>> > >>URL into your web browser: > >> > >> > >>>http://www.Railfan.net/lists/listthumb.cgi?erielack-12-31-04 > >>> > >>>Erie909Nyack.jpg (image/jpeg, 133913 bytes) > >>>Erie909TrntableNyack.jpg (image/jpeg, 171626 bytes) > >>> > >>>"Gary R. Kazin" <gkazin_@_yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>"http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=18&X=2953&Y=22746&W > >>1 > >> > >> > >>>is the Terraserver satellite view of Nyack at closest > >>>resolution. The building in the center is a shopping mall > >>>facing Main Street. The station was a block or two south > >>>of there. Depot Place begins three blocks south of the > >>>mall > >>> > >>>(Snip) > >>> > >>>The depot is long gone, from what I've read, and I don't > >>>see anything that looks 'train station' on the overhead > >>>view." > >>> > >>> > >>>I haven't been to Nyack in many years. The amount of change > >>>and gentrification visible in the satellite view is > >>>amazing. Here's how I prefer to remember Nyack, both views > >>>taken in the early 1960's: > >>> > >>>Vince Lee > >>> > >>>=== > >>>Modelling the Erie Wyoming Divison in Pennsylvania and > >>>the Erie 28th Street Terminal in New York City > >>> > >>>East and West Railfanning Photos: > >>>http://www.eastwestrails.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>__________________________________ > >>>Do you Yahoo!? > >>>The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > >>>http://my.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ===== Gary R. Kazin DL&W Milepost R35.7 Rockaway, New Jersey http://www.geocities.com/gkazin/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------
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