Re: (erielack) Lounge Diner 2996

[Hhaines_@_aol.com]

In a message dated 8/2/2004 5:25:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
Jjbchian_@_aol.com writes:

> Was this car originally constructed as a coach in 1926, and converted to a 
> Lounge/Diner in 1948? 
> 
Dear JJ Boehner:

Originally, lounge-diner #2996 was Erie coach #2258.  The following I posted 
on Father's day this year, and is from some research, passenger diagram books, 
Larry DeYoung's books, and the Diamond article.  Hope it helps, Howard Haines
ELHS #1447 
From June 2004
In 1932, Erie cars #2286 and 2287 became coach-parlor-buffet cars 2998 and 
2999.  Car #2288 became coach-parlor car 2997.  These were air conditioned 
between 1934 to 1938.

In 1934, #2258 became an air conditioned Club car Tuxedo, #2296.  

In 1954, Erie 2996 and 2999 appear to have been converted to lounge-diner 
cars. This car later wore Erie 2-tone green (from 1954) and EL GMY after 1966. 

The outside of the Branchline model is similar to the outside of the EL 2996 
and 2999 diner-lounge (if vents were removed, etc), that were painted in both 
Erie green and Erie 2-tone Green (1954).

I have not completed research to determine if #2997 or 2998 wore 2-tone green 
or GMY. Maybe someone else out there knows for sure.  In 1948 they (2997 and 
2998) were rebuilt to buffet-lounge-parlor cars and 1954, 2996 and 2998 were 
converted to lounge-diner cars. 

The outside of the Branchline model is similar to the outside of the EL 2996 
and 2999 diner-lounge (if vents were removed, etc), that were painted in both 
Erie 2-tone Green (1954) and EL gmy (1968? for 2999?) colors.
H Haines

Below From:  Marty Obed

Here is some additional info relative to Erie coaches which were later 
converted for various levels of "food service" (coach-buffet, parlor-diner, 
lounge-diner).  I am omitting some specific details as I am in Alabama at the moment 
without my notebooks.

Erie #2996 (ex-Tuxedo) served into the 1960s and in particular was often 
found on Trains 40 & 43 during the summer of 1965 (last year for these trains).  
No. 2996 kept its 2-tone green Erie scheme through scrapping.

Erie #2997 kept its Erie 2-tone paint through the end of revenue service in 
the 1960s.


Erie #2998 was repainted maroon/gray/yellow by 1965, at first keeping its 
2998 number but later renumbered 752.  There is a Bob Pennisi/RR Avenue 
Enterprises photo of Train 40 or 43 at Cresco, PA in June 1965 with an m/g/y 2998 (you 
can't see the number, but you can see the kitchen window side of the car).

I am converting an O-scale coach to Erie #2996, a relatively easy 
modification which will involve the partial covering of three of the coach windows and 
some changes to the roof vents and underframe details.

Marty Obed

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