My point about WWII coastal illumination was that in time of war, we have to suffer restrictions, in order to avoid greater calamities. My point about getting kicked out of rail yards was that in our hobby, we have to live with restrictions. When police exceed their authority, and hassle innocent people, it's a pain; and in some cases much worse. But our enemies take advantage of our open society to do what they want. Philip Martin martinpl3_@_earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Janet & Randy Brown <jananran_@_mymailstation.com> > To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net> > Date: 6/5/2004 7:52:01 AM > Subject: Re:Re: (erielack) New restrictions on photographing trains > > Two notes, Doug: > > During WWII, illumination along the East Coast was significantly reduced by "brownouts" and half-painted over vehicle headlights -- cars, trucks and trains. > > Getting kicked out of railroad yards has nothing to do with terrorism or paranoia. They were simply ejecting a trespasser. > > Hassling someone standing on public property taking pictures of a publicly owned corporation which is part of the public life comes close to a First Ammendment violation. > > Randy Brown > -------------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think that the government doing what it can to protect us from saboteurs is paranoid. As I mentioned to you, Gary; when I saw a guy photographing the Hack (PRR) bridge, where I worked, years ago, it struck me as peculiar. Of course the police don't always use sense; but as long as they don't stick you in jail, were not hurting too much. During World War II, in the US life went on as though there wasn't really a war on. The authorities didn't douse the coastal lights, and U Boats were able to pick off freighters silhouetted against the coastal skyline. As an old railfan, I've been kicked out of my share of rail yards, with my camera. That's the bumps you get, now and then. > Philip Martin > martinpl3_@_earthlink.net > > ------------------------------
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