Paul, and others, My error--I meant to say that the 4014 was returned to Conrail by NJDOT on 5/10/80 (per Michael Steinberg's website). The information I have seen on HobokenTerminal.com intimate that the unit (along with X PC 4039, 4063, 4249, and 4256, as well as CR 4022) were leased by NJDOT for a period until 5/10/80, when they were no longer needed and Conrail took them back. With the exception of the 4249, which came to NJDOT from PC and was then traded to Conrail for the 4248 (now the "Erie 835"), none were ever owned by NJDOT unless something happend that I am not privy to. Thanks again, Phil Bell ELRRco_@_AOL.com > > > I have one other question: When/When were E8s 825 and 823 > > scrapped? I have > > read on this list that the 823 did not become a donor for an > > RS3 repowering > > program, and was out-of-service until the Conrail takeover, > > though there is no > > record of it ever becoming CR property. > > > > I know the 825 went to CR 4014, and I have seen it was turned > > back to CR from > > NJDOT in May of 1980, but the trail goes dead there. > > > I think there is a very strong possibility that 823 became a donor for > RS3m prime movers. The latest shot of it I have in my collection is > dated October 27, 1975, and it's sitting dead in storage at Port Jervis. > Seeing how the 1060 was released later that year, it might be cutting it > close. > > Was the 825 actually turned back to NJDOT? I thought CR scrapped it... > > - Paul > ------------------------------ End of EL List Daily V3 #1302 *****************************
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