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RE: (erielack) EL Business car train and dispositions?
- Subject: RE: (erielack) EL Business car train and dispositions?
- From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:28:00 -0500
> I was sitting around the house during the last snow storm
> wondering about various things and one was the EL business train
> which consisted of the "Spirit of Youngstown" sandwiched by two
> business cars. An elegant consist, but what was it actually used
> for. I know that Gregory Maxwell toured the system with it. I
> assume that it might have carried officials back and forth between
> Cleveland and Hoboken, but what else was done with it? It had a
> limited capacity for carrying passengers or businessmen. Did EL
> use it to attract traffic? I don't think the sleeping car
> accomodations were ever used for overnight travel and there was
> probably limited food preparation aboard the business cars.
> Anybody know just how the train was used?
The Spirit was a sleeper, and might have been used for the crews (much like how CSX uses the car today)
> I also remember an additional business car stationed at Marion in
> the mid-70s. Were there other official cars spread around the
> system aside from this train?
At the end of the road, the EL had two business cars, to the best of my knowledge - #3 and #300 (Pres. White's ex-D&H car). The 3/Spirit/300 sandwich was a common sight on the many business trains that ran in the 1973-1976 timeframe to show off the property to potential suitors, as well as E8s 825 and 833 pulling this consist.
Of the EL's business car fleet, the 3 ex-DL&W cars (97, 98, 99) were the first to leave the roster, sometime in the early 1960s.
I know that the #1 was sold to a private individual in the early 1970s, and was stored at the L&HR enginehouse in Warwick, NY for quite some time. Anyone know where it went?
Not sure when the #2 was sold, but today it's restored and in private hands, based out of Bloomsburg, PA on the North Shore RR (ex-DL&W Bloomsburg Branch, how appropriate!)
The #3 today is restored to its Erie 2-tone glory at Steamtown.
- Paul
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