Ken: I took a picture of an Erie PA and two cars coming up out of Englewood on the Northern one Saturday long ago; you know that got turned at Nyack. And, several years ago, I bought a print of an F3 or 7 with a stillwell string having just arrived at Hoboken. Single covered wagons on commuter did happen, but I'll bet they were a pain at the outer end of the run. Randy Brown ------------------------------