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Re: (erielack) My Sample Timetables for Cutoff
- Subject: Re: (erielack) My Sample Timetables for Cutoff
- From: Gary R.Kazin <"gkazin_@_netscape.net">
- Date: 28 Jun 00 14:19:11 EDT
Gary R. Kazin <"gkazin_@_netscape.net"> wrote:
> "Tupaczewski, Paul R \(Paul\)" <"paultup_@_lucent.com"> wrote:
(Someone proposed these off-the-wall times - GK)
> > LACKAWANNA CUTOFF TIMETABLES
> > Train # A830 6500 800 502
> > Scranton 450 459 502 515
> > Del. Water Gap D502 519 514 535
> > Lake Hopatcong D529 549 541 605
> > Dover D539 559 551 615
> > Denville --- 605 --- 621
> > Morristown D602 615 614 631
> > Summit D615 631 627 649
> > South Orange --- 646 --- 701
> > Newark D630 656 642 716
> > Hoboken --- --- --- 732
> > PATH
> > World Trade Center --- --- --- 741
> > 33rd Street --- --- --- 740
> > Ferry --- --- --- 742
> > Penn Station New York 650 717 702 ---
> Looking at train 830 alone: =
You're allotting 12 minutes from Scranton to Del Water Gap?!? Is this in =
a
low-flying jet?!?
> Water Gap to Lake H (Port Morris) time is a bit more reasonable. But th=
ere's
NO way you'll be seeing trains make the Scranton-Del Water Gap run in 20
minutes! Heck, taking the Route 80/380 way, it's at least 45 minutes from=
the
Gap to Scranton (and that's doing 65+ the whole way!), and the route isn'=
t
that much longer...
Checking the EL timetable from 10/25/1964, the distance between Scranton =
and
East Stroudsburg (DWG was closed by then) is 51.5 miles. Due to curvatur=
e of
the line (I think there are 3 complete circles of turns) they scheduled 7=
0 to
88 minutes for the run with 2 stops (Pocono Summit and Cresco). I think =
there
is an HOUR that got omitted from his projections here, for 12 minutes wou=
ld
require 257.5 mph; 20 minutes would still require 154.5 mph. He's propos=
ing
HHP engines, but there is no catenary in the plans (anyone have another $=
400
million to spare?) =
The PHOEBE took 3 hours 15 minutes from Hoboken to Scranton and 3:10 back=
=2E =
Presumably the first two columns are morning and the others evening? It =
makes
no sense to run four trains within 30 minutes; the demand isn't THAT grea=
t. A
more sensible schedule would have trains leave Scranton every hour (or mo=
re)
between 3:30 and 7am or so, with a mid-day and evening run. The mid-day =
gets
people to New York for theater, sports, etc, and the evening supplies
equipment for a midnight return from the theater, sports, etc. That then=
becomes the first train down in the morning!
Gary Kazin
DL&W milepost R35.7
Rockaway, New Jersey
New Jersey Transit - THE WAY TO GO!!!
(I have no affiliation with New Jersey Transit.)
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