As long as we're on this non-EL thread 8=0), where is this: http://www.railfan.net/railpix/ABPR/june00/06-26-00/HXM-BlackCarsatGradeCrossing.jpg Jersey City someplace? Harrison near Hudson Tower? tia, dmg ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the erielack photopage at http://el-list.railfan.net ------------------------------