Re: (erielack) Westerner --- New Yorker

[The Jordans <"pamela_@_blast.net">]

Jack-

The Westerner and the New Yorker were DL&W trains between Hoboken and
Buffalo.  Equipment from the DL&W was transferred to the NKP for insertion
into the NKP consist of their trains at Buffalo going to Chicago.  Usually
this consisted of one coach and one sleeper and a multitude of "head end"
cars.  The eastbound NKP train would transfer cars from Chicago at Buffalo
to the DL&W in about the same ratio.

Therefore, you could see the DL&W New Yorker with an NKP coach and a
sleeper in it's consist headed east and their return on the next trip on
the Westerner.  Both DL&W trains were mostly DL&W gray, maroon and yellow
streamline cars with only two NKP blue and silver cars.  Head end cars
involved were usually old heavyweight express baggage and special express
box cars from both roads.

George Elwood has a listing of specific equipment assigned for these trains
at the below URL:

http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/pax/dlw-t11.html

Pictures of the models for the NKP coach and sleeper can be seen on my web
iste at:

http://TrainNut.Railfan.net/PJLayoutImages/nkpcityofcoldwaterstreamlinesleep
er72'blue&silver.JPG

http://TrainNut.Railfan.net/PJLayoutImages/nkp102streamlinecoach72'blue&silv
er.JPG
Ooops!  Watch the corner turn on the URL addresses

- -Joe Jordan

At 06:35 PM 06/20/2000 -0400, "JACK5008_@_webtv.net" wrote:
>
>The Westerner and the New Yorker were the names for a westbound &
>eastbound train between New York (Hoboken) and Chicago operated on the
>DL&W and NKP. 
>
>Were the consists mostly DL&W or mostly NKP.
>
>My understanding was that it was run as one through train, not like the
>Phoebe Snow and City of Chicago (Cleveland) that ran as two separate
>trains with through cars.
>
>
>Jack Grasso
>
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