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Tim Stuy queried.....

<<Did anyone out there ever eat in a Lackawanna, Erie or EL diner?  If yo=
u
did can you relate the experience.  From the passenger point of view the
dining car was one of the highlights of a trip yet it is seldom talked
about in railfan circles.<<

Well, I did.  In the mid-60's I was working for Price Waterhouse and I
found a few opportunities to take the train from Hoboken to Binghamton an=
d
Elmira.  I would board in Hoboken and head to the diner immediately upon
departure.  In those days, they were using the Phoebe Snow diners (on the=

Lake Cities) which I thought were beautiful cars.  Dinner was
......well......dinner, and my most vivid remenbrance was that the only
white wine was Sauterne, which was terrible.  But the overall experience
was sublime.

I also recall riding from Chicago to Hoboken, where the diner was added
somewhere in Ohio (Marion?).  This time, it was an old Erie heavyweight
diner.  I seem to remember that the menu for lunch was limited to cold
sandwiches.  It didn't matter to me, as I loved the atmosphere of the car=
. =

Oddly, I have no recollection of what must have been later dinner and
breakfast aboard this heavyweight beast.

My favorite experience was in 1966, when I operated an NRHS excursion fro=
m
Syracuse to Scranton.  The EL brought in a train which included two diner=
s,
and the crew had spent the deadhead move cooking some incredible number o=
f
turkeys.  Turkey, on that trip, was something like $3.25, and was
delicious.  As a non-dining car memory, that train had also brought in (f=
or
the crew) a heavyweight (Erie, I think) section sleeper, which was parked=

on a station track.

And for the diesel lovers, we had asked for PA's on that NRHS trip, and w=
e
got THREE of them.  Sigh!

Dave Ross
Cliffside Park, NJ

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