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Re: (erielack) Re: PATH flooding

There's a book called "Rails Under the Hudson."  It describes the plan to have two levels
of service north-south from Hoboken to Jersey City.  If you take the Hoboken/World Trade
Center train, just after the junction to 33rd St, if you look to the left from the front
of the train, you can see a bore that goes on.  I can't remember if it's on the track to
or from Hoboken that the mouth of the bore is filled with a "tower."  You can see another
bore just near the junction of the Hoboken track before the train turns right to go to
Journal Square or left to go to World Trade Center.


Ken

David Goessling wrote:

> Never heard about that!
>
> On one trip the guides took us on they pointed out the unfinished tunnel
> entrance that was supposed to go to Brooklyn(!) and talked about the intent to
> extend the line north to Grand Central (wouldn't that have been great for
> today's commuters!)
>
> I worked between 14th and 23rd streets, so got off at either stop. I of course
> lobbied to have the 18/19th Street station (in the basement of the old
> Wanamaker's) reopened! It would have been right in the basement of my building
> across the street. (You'd think that might be a good idea now, with all the
> retail activity in that area, but I'm sure it would play havoc with the already
> tight schedules...)
>
> The PR guy that was leading us around said that some time in the late '60s some
> rich entrepreneur proposed a plan to PATH for the station. He wanted to put a
> restaurant in it, with glass block from floor to ceiling at the edge of the
> platforms, tables ON the platforms, so you could sit and have a drink and watch
> the trains go by! PATH quashed the idea for safety reasons: not enough emergency
> exits...
>
> dmg
>
> Ken wrote:
> >
> Did you ever get any info on the proposed double-decking project on the
> north-south
> > between Hoboken and where it joined the east-west Jersey City-Hudson Terminal line?
> > The boring is there, I believe, at least the entrances are, although one near
> > Hoboken has a tower in it.  When I stopped at Pavonia Av in the early 1970's, there
> > were some stairways going down that were completely enclosed and blocked off.
> > Wonder if they went to the lower level station platforms?
> >
> > Ken B.
> >
> > David Goessling wrote:
> >
> > > The most serious flooding I ever so on PATH was during the "Nor'easter" of '93
> > > ('94?) There were TV news shots of water almost up to street level on the stairs
> > > in Hoboken!
> > >
> > > Years ago when I worked in Manhattan I was on the volunteer "PATH Commuter
> > > Advisory Board" (filled out enough of those suggestion/survey cards that they
> > > finally called me up :-)) We had a number of interesting tours, including one of
> > > the operations center in Journal Square, another of the then-newly renovated
> > > Exchange Place station.
> > >
> > > Somebody asked why Hoboken Station often smelled so bad. Answer: because it's of
> > > course below low tide level and the mud behind the back wall (closest to the
> > > stairs up to the Terminal) just plain stinks at low tide! They have tried many
> > > things for years to dry it, mask the smell (remember those sickly sweet
> > > fragrance bombs they had for a while?), etc. largely to no avail...
> > >
> > > dmg
> > >
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