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Re: (erielack) Erie Limited

Jerome:

Found another reference on this subject in Vol.. 1, No. 2 of the Erie
Railfan.  In the article on modeling one of these cars its says "Apparently,
from what I (the author) have heard, these (the cars from ACF) were not
brand spanking new - except to the Erie - but were up-graded trade-ins (Ed:
Can anyone confirm this?)"  Where the author (ME!) heard this I don't
remember.  But then I'm much older now and the memory just isn't what it
used to be.  By the way, to my knowledge, no one ever confirmed this.

Tony Horn
ELHS #2

- ----- Original Message -----
From: NEW HAVEN U25B <"ERIE-LACKAWANNA_@_prodigy.net">
To: Tony Horn <"horn_@_HUB.ofthe.NET">
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Erie Limited


> If this is so, then why did the cars  have old drop-equalized passenger
> trucks from old passenger cars and maybe 2400 series Stillwell coaches
than
> newer more modern trucks of this version? Appears maybe ACF built the
shells
> for these otherwise heavyweight cars that were 72' long than standard 85'.
> Remember, Erie installed picture windows in some 1000 series coachs and
> diners to make them appear modern but still were old heavyweight passenger
> cars
>
> Jerome
> >
> >
> > > According to DeYoung (EL Color Guide to Freight and Passenger
> Equipment),
> > > "In 1950 ACF built the Erie a series of lightweight headend cars at
> their
> > > plant in Berwick, Pennsylvania.  Among them were five combined mail
and
> > > dormitory cars for the railroad's long-distance trains, numbered
> 622-626,
> > > and three baggage-mail combinations numbered 627-629." (page 25)
> > >
> > > "Built with the mail-dormitory and mail-express cars in series
622-629,
> > cars
> > > 200-221 were delivered to the Erie by ACF in 1950." (p. 27)  These
were
> > > lightweight baggage cars for which the HO scale model is available
from
> > > ELHS.
> > >
> > > "American" series were delivered in 1942.
> > > "Spirit" cars delivered in 1954.
> > >
> > > Tony Horn
> > > ELHS #2
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: NEW HAVEN U25B <"ERIE-LACKAWANNA_@_prodigy.net">
> > > To: Tony Horn <"horn_@_HUB.ofthe.NET">
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 7:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (erielack) Erie Limited
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Erie Baggage Cars are Not lightweights. They are rebuilt 70'
> > > > heavyweight baggage cars with smoothside body but still retain the
> > > original
> > > > heavyweight frames and trucks. NJT have a few in MOW service.
> > > >
> > > > The leased Pullman sleepers were the only Erie lightweight passenger
> > cars
> > > >
> > > > Jerome
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Walter,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me see what I reember.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Erie Limited was dieselized around 1947 with F-3's painted
> > yellow
> > > > > > and black. During this period the older cars were rehabilitated
> with
> > > > > > picture windows and other items to make them look modern. The
only
> > new
> > > > > > cars that the Erie acquired were the sleepers. Everything was
> > painted
> > > > > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > > THE LW SLEEPERS INCLUDED THE "AMERICAN" SERIES (6-6-4), THE
> > "PRESIDENT"
> > > > > SERIES(10-6) AND LATER THE TWO "YOUNGSTOWN" CARS.
> > > > >
> > > > > DON'T FORGET THE LW HEAD END CARS (BAGGAGE MODELS AVAILABLE FROM
> ELHS)
> > > > FROM
> > > > > BERWICK [BAGGAGE, BAGGAGE-MAIL, MAIL-DORM).  CARS WERE MORE A
> PULLMAN
> > > > (DARK)
> > > > > GREEN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The LifeLike Erie E8 looks great. One problem is that it has a
> marz
> > or
> > > > > > low head light which the Erie never had.
> > > > > >
> > > > > THE PAINTED MODEL HAS THE SOLID DOOR.  COLORS ON THE PAINTED MODEL
> > (ALSO
> > > > ON
> > > > > THE PA) ARE NOT VERY ACCURATE.  IF YOU GET AN UNDEC VERSION, BOTH
> > DOORS
> > > > ARE
> > > > > INCLUDED SO IT CAN BE BUILT W/O THE MARS LIGHT.>
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