Telephone Train order signals wer at two places and wer both in place into
early Conrail. One was at the west end of Hornell Yard on the Buffalo Div.
(right next to where the PS&N Hornell Br. connected-I don't think that the
PS&N had anything to do with the signal) The location MP333-1-B was called
VN crossover, and i believe that it was to route Buffalo Div. trains around
departing or arriving Alleghany Div. trains as they had only a single track
into and out of Hornell. The other Buffalo Div. TELEPHONE TRAIN ORDER
SIGNAL (as they are called in my Erie Employee TTBL. from Oct.28, 1956)
was for the center siding running westward from Canaseraga, NY westbound
the signal, which was a lower position flat top blade(as all telephone TO
signals were) was located at MP 343-1-B, and the eastbound signal was at
345-2-B, making it a 2 mile passing siding. During early Conrail this
siding was full of out of service (90% EL) cars. I have a number of shots
of these signals which I've took over the years.
They wer remotely thrown to a stop position by the Dispatcher,
and the train would stop and call the DS to find out what he wanted them to
do; cross over at VN, or take the siding at Canaseraga. It was kind of a
poor man's CTC, and remember ther were no good radios as late as the mid
70's. David J. MOnte Verde "tequila_@_frontiernet.net"
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To: "erielack-digest_@_internexus.net" <erielack-digest@internexus.net>
Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 6:00 AM
Subject: Erielack Digest V2 #207
>
>Erielack Digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 207
>
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>(erielack) Sussex Branch
>(erielack) GP-35 2570
>(erielack) Erie Caboose lamp
>(erielack) Corning Glass RR cars
>(erielack) RE: "F.P.Bunnell & Son"
>(erielack) Shared Assets SD45-2s
>Re: (erielack) Lackawanna Trackside
>(erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>RE: (erielack) "Miss February"
>Re: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>(erielack) Erie two-tone green... getting warmer!
>Re: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>Re: (erielack) RE: "F.P.Bunnell & Son"
>Re: (erielack) Shared Assets SD45-2s
>Re: (erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>(erielack) Lantern for trade?
>(erielack) ELHS Calender
>(erielack) Eire Mainline
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Calender
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Calender
>(erielack) ELHS Calendar
>(erielack) SD35's
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>Re: (erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>Re: (erielack) Lantern for trade?
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:09:06 -0500
>From: "Rutan, Dave & Laura" <"dlr_@_sparta.csnet.net">
>Subject: (erielack) Sussex Branch
>
>J McEachen Wrote:
>
>>My father remembers the milk trains with tank cars that
>>went along the Sussex branch, collecting farmers' milk or getting it to
>>a dairy, I don't know.
>
>If it's not too late, is it possible you could ask your father what
>color the milk cars were? It seems to be a point of contention since
>the vast majority of photos are black & white.
>
>Thanks for visiting my page!
>
>Dave
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:52:15 -0600
>From: "Walt and Denise Fles" <"wndfles_@_jorsm.com">
>Subject: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>
>All,
>I saw at a Hobby Shop an Athearn GP-35 in EL paint numbered #2570. I was so
>thrilled to see that, because not only was that a realistic GP-35 number
for the
>EL, but it also saw lots of
>west end action. Also, Larry DeYoung's "WEST END" book has a picture of
that
>engine sitting
>in the Hammond Yard. Another fine piece of motive power has been added to
my
>consist.
>
>Walt "ERIE" Fles
>ELHS # 2508
>"wndfles_@_jorsm.com"
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:09:43 EST
>From: "Michael Dye" <"luxpan_@_hotmail.com">
>Subject: (erielack) Erie Caboose lamp
>
>Yesterday, I received a gft from my father (An Erie/EL Marion Division
>Brakeman). He told me that it was a kerosene lamp taken from an Erie
>caboose.
>
>This lamp consists of an unmarked base, approximately 6 1/4" in
>diameter, with a screw-in filler plug and a screw-in center hole for the
>wick and adjustment screw. The globe is a straight, clear glass, about
>10" tall.
>
>Might someone know where I might find out how these were mounted, when
>these were used and when the cabooses stopped using them?
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Michael Dye ELHS #1516
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:45:23 -0500
>From: Kevin DeGroff <"74107.1351_@_compuserve.com">
>Subject: (erielack) Corning Glass RR cars
>
>Does anyone know how many covered hoppers Corning Glass once owned? When
>did they get them, and when did they get rid of them? I recall most (if
>not all) were ACF-style, either 2-bay or 3-bay(?) with the pea-soup green
>paint and white middle stripe and black letters. What was their load
>origin, the typical routing, and the EL interchange point of these cars?
>Where were the cars unloaded in the Corning area? Was it downtown or out
>at the facilities in Erwins west of the GangMills yard?
>l think one of the plastic manufacturers made a model of a 3-bay hopper
>painted for Corning.
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:21:26 -0500
>From: "R.M.\"Rich\" Tubbs" <"rtubbs_@_marion.net">
>Subject: (erielack) RE: "F.P.Bunnell & Son"
>
>Schuyler and List:
>Your note about F P Bunnell (and Son) started my mind working again.
>Some years back, I made the acquaintance of a very knowledgeable
>gentleman, John Willever, who is very well versed on the Lackawanna
>company photographers. Anyhow, the name F.P.Bunnell just didn't ring
>right, so I got out my notes from conversations with John. The most well
>known Lackawanna company photographer, simply for the fact that he did
>the photos of both cutoff construction projects, was W.B.Bunnell (Watson
>B. Bunnell). His employment lasted into the late 'teens maybe into the
>twenties when he was replaced by W.B.B., Jr., not Watson Jr. as you
>would suspect, but William B. Barry. He added the suffix Jr. to his
>photos to further identify his work. Another DL&W photographer who
>worked during the same period was a John G. Anneman. My notes seem to
>indicate that Watson never married, so perhaps F.P. could have been some
>other relation who was given access to company plates, but we don't show
>an F.P. Bunnell as having worked for the DL&W. For what it was
>worth......
>
>Dick Tubbs
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:38:03 -0500
>From: Kevin DeGroff <"74107.1351_@_compuserve.com">
>Subject: (erielack) Shared Assets SD45-2s
>
>The Railpace website says the remaining 11 ex-EL SD45-2s will be assigned
>to the Shared Assets area in NJ. Does anyone know if the Shared Assets
>title means the equipment will not get out and about?
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:15:36 -0500
>From: "Schuyler G. Larrabee" <"SGL2_@_IX.NETCOM.COM">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Lackawanna Trackside
>
>Thought you'd never ask!
>
>Among other places, it is available from the ELHS. Our price is $45.00
>plus shipping, which for a single book would be $5.00 .in the US, $7.50 in
>Canada and $22.00 to Europe. Harold told me this last week that they have
>been shipped to him and he expected them momentarily.
>
>Order from
>Harold Werthwein
>Erie Lackawanna Historical Society
>One Cottontail Lane
>Columbia NJ 07832
>
>
>SGL
>
>
>
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>> From: "Lederer73_@_aol.com"
>> To: "scottnyr_@_nac.net"; erielack@internexus.net
>> Subject: Re: (erielack) Lackawanna Trackside
>> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 2:04 AM
>>
>> Where is the book for sale?
>>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:53:46 -0500
>From: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <"paultup_@_interactive.net">
>Subject: (erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>
>Got this info from Carl Perelman - WOO-HOO!!!
>
> - Paul
>
>>Paul,
>> Word is that CSX and NS will assign all 11 ex EL SD45-2s to the
>>North Jersey/South Jersey-Philadelphia Shared Assets Area! Saw the 6663
>>on today's ENAL.
>> Carl
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:03:44 -0500
>From: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <"paultup_@_interactive.net">
>Subject: RE: (erielack) "Miss February"
>
>Schuyler,
>
> This topic came up a few months back, based on that same picture.
> The fact is, NO ONE knew what the box was for.
> Theories abounded, including: A power supply for raising/lowering the
>floatbridge in NYC, or alternately, an engine block heater.
>
> Any thoughts, folks?
>
> - Paul
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "erielack-owner_@_internexus.net"
>> [mailto:"erielack-owner_@_internexus.net"]On Behalf Of Schuyler G. Larrabee
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:48 PM
>> To: Erielack
>> Subject: (erielack) "Miss February"
>>
>>
>> So finally, last week as the month drew to a close, I really took
>> a look at
>> the picture on my ELHS/Weekend Chief calendar at the office.
>>
>> As most of you probably know, it shows a shot of Erie 320, an ALCo S1
>> switcher, hard at work. Since the calendar is at the office and I am at
>> home, I can't report on where it's at work but that's not
>> relevant here . .
>> . maybe.
>>
>> Just in front of the engineer on the walkway, there's some sort of, shall
>> we say, aftermarket equipment. A metal "shed" with an obvious exhaust
>> stack sticking up through the sloping top. A lot of cables. Something
>> that sort of looks like a worklight, but is a bit large for that. And
the
>> cables are too large for powering a simple work light.
>>
>> What __IS__ that stuff, anyhow? Anybody __know__?
>>
>> Could be neat to model that, but is it a specialized adaptation or rider
>> equipment needed for a specific assignment at that location? That's why
I
>> said that the location may not be relevant; it could be crucial.
>>
>> Maybe this'll keep you guys from discussing Interstate highways!
>>
>> SGL
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:21:24 -0500
>From: The Jordans <"pamela_@_blast.net">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>
>Walt-
>
>That's a standard Athearn unit & number which has been out since at least
>November 1, 1979 (date I bought mine). Note the color on the "maroon"
>stripe, It almost looks brown. After twenty years, mine still runs very
>well along with its
>sister #2564 which I have as purchased on March 24, 1973.
>
>Good luck,
>
>- -Joe Jordan
>
>
>At 09:52 AM 2/28/99 -0600, Walt and Denise Fles wrote:
>>All,
>>I saw at a Hobby Shop an Athearn GP-35 in EL paint numbered #2570. I was
so
>>thrilled to see that, because not only was that a realistic GP-35 number
>for the
>>EL, but it also saw lots of
>>west end action. Also, Larry DeYoung's "WEST END" book has a picture of
that
>>engine sitting
>>in the Hammond Yard. Another fine piece of motive power has been added to
my
>>consist.
>>
>>Walt "ERIE" Fles
>>ELHS # 2508
>>"wndfles_@_jorsm.com"
>>
>>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:23:04 -0500
>From: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <"paultup_@_interactive.net">
>Subject: (erielack) Erie two-tone green... getting warmer!
>
>My mind is horrible, but I'd like the thank the individual on this list
>(whose name slips my mind) who recommended using Polly Scale military
colors
>for the Erie two-tone green. His suggestion of "Imperial Japanese Navy
>green" (or "I.J.N. Green" on the bottle) for the dark green is right on!
The
>color looks fantastic!
>
>For the slightly more difficult gray-green color, I chose Polly Scale
>(another military color) "German RLM 84 Sky Green." The color looks *very*
>close to me (Harry Scholz: Could you paint up a piece of styrene with the
>Accu-Paint color so I can compare). If anyone has these in their local
shop,
>I suggest you give these two colors a try, as they seem like a good fit to
>me! (I think a slight brown overspray on the colors will work wonders, as
>most photos of Erie two-tone equipment I see has a nice coat of road dirt
on
>them).
>
> - Paul
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:12:05 -0600
>From: "Walt and Denise Fles" <"wndfles_@_jorsm.com">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>
>Joe,
>I just like collecting motive power that I know from records and
photographs
>served in the west end. I'm looking forward to using this engine and MUing
>it with an SD-45, to be prototypical.
>
>Walt Fles
>
>"wndfles_@_jorsm.com"
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: The Jordans <"pamela_@_blast.net">
>To: Walt and Denise Fles <"wndfles_@_jorsm.com">; <erielack@internexus.net>
>Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 5:21 PM
>Subject: Re: (erielack) GP-35 2570
>
>
>>Walt-
>>
>>That's a standard Athearn unit & number which has been out since at least
>>November 1, 1979 (date I bought mine). Note the color on the "maroon"
>>stripe, It almost looks brown. After twenty years, mine still runs very
>>well along with its
>>sister #2564 which I have as purchased on March 24, 1973.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>-Joe Jordan
>>
>>
>>At 09:52 AM 2/28/99 -0600, Walt and Denise Fles wrote:
>>>All,
>>>I saw at a Hobby Shop an Athearn GP-35 in EL paint numbered #2570. I was
so
>>>thrilled to see that, because not only was that a realistic GP-35 number
>>for the
>>>EL, but it also saw lots of
>>>west end action. Also, Larry DeYoung's "WEST END" book has a picture of
that
>>>engine sitting
>>>in the Hammond Yard. Another fine piece of motive power has been added
to my
>>>consist.
>>>
>>>Walt "ERIE" Fles
>>>ELHS # 2508
>>>"wndfles_@_jorsm.com"
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:23:12 EST
>From: "Dlw1el2_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) RE: "F.P.Bunnell & Son"
>
>Schuyler, and Dick
>
>You are correct or just about everything you have stated Dick except that,
>Both
>Watson W. Bunnell, and William W. Barry, W is the middel initial for both
men,
>were employed at the same time. Barry did not replace Bunnell. I've spoke
>with John Willever on this many times myself, and I don't think its a
proven
>fact that Barry used the Jr. to differentiate himself from Bunnell, but
>conjecture.
>
>Per John, Watson W. Bunnell was employed by the Lackawanna from about 1905
to
>1919 when he was let go, a fact that he was quite bitter over. All his
>negatives are in the A through G series, with the A, B and C being the most
>numerous. Most of these are at Syracuse University and are of the 8 x10
size.
>The F series are the really large negatives, and the E the smaller box
camera
>size. Most of these are also at Syracuse. Most but not all Bunnell
negatives
>have a B in a circle, or ---B--- inscripted on them.
>
>There are a few negatives that have the Letter A which Bunnell allowed Jack
>Annamen to put on if he actually took the photo. He was Bunnells assistant
>99%of the time until he went into the service during World War one. When
he
>came out of the service he never helped again.
>
>William W. Barry was employed by the Lackawanna from about 1907 to 1933. In
>later years it was on a contract basis. All his negatives are in the X
>series. He often initialled his negatives WWB Jr, and Occasionally it
would
>be on the negative reversed, so that it would appear correct as if you were
>looking into a mirror. All attempts by John to find the where abouts of
>William Barry or his surviving relations have been futile.
>
>I'm pleased to say that about 14 or 15 years ago The Tri State Railroad
>Historical Society sponsored John Willever, and myself, along with three
very
>old and knowledgeable retired Railroaders. We spent five days inside the
>George Arentz Library annex building cataloging a portion of the C
collection
>of negatives. In a very worth wild project, over 500 negatives were
>cataloged that week, and I have fond memories working with those men. Many
of
>the negatives would never have been able to be corectly identified, if it
>hadn't been for the knowledgfe of the railroad 50 years past that those men
>showed. Unfortunately that figure is only a small fraction of what is
>there, and not cataloged. Its also unfortunate to state that all three of
>those men are no longer with us. I would also like to mentioned credit
where
>credit is due. The Syracuse Chapter of the NRHS put several of us up in
there
>homes that week, thus Tri State was spared a large lodging bill. A big
thank
>you is still extended to them for that hospitality.
>
>So in regard to your question about F.P. Bunnell Schuyler its not really
known
>if he was related to Watson or not. John has stated that a couple of
Bunnells
>negatives did become postcards, noteing one at the Water Gap Station. The
>number 2847 could be a negative number. There does exist a Richard Bunnell,
>who's step grandfather was Watson. His last known address is over 10 years
>old, but I am going to try to contact him later this week. I'll let you
know
>if there is anything positive.
>
>Bob
>
>PS. A big thank you should be extended to John Willever for researching
>through
> the years, all three Lackawanna Photographers. Although its not
>stated, the
> works of these three men are very prevelent in the Tabor Books.
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:46:52 -0500
>From: Donald Kern <"doubletrack_@_home.com">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Shared Assets SD45-2s
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:48:30 EST
>From: "STEVEZ10_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>
>I wonder if NS will ever use these units on the Allentown based locals to
>Washington, NJ after the split date.
>I would be in seventh heaven if I saw these units working AL-18 or DJ-61!!
>Conrail has sent 6 axle power up to Washington before. It is a very rare
>occurrence, but I saw a Conrail SD40 sitting in Dover back in December!!
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:51:59 EST
>From: "Dlw1el2_@_aol.com"
>Subject: (erielack) Lantern for trade?
>
>To All
>I have a Armspear tall glob lantern, marked ERIE RR in good shape. The
clear
>globe is raised cast ERR Co. I would be willing to trade with someone
for a
>similar tall globe lantern with DL&W RR recording marks, and corresponding
>globe. If you have a lanter but not the corresponding globe lets talk.
>Inquire off line.
>
>Bob
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:03:00 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: (erielack) ELHS Calender
>
>All this talk about the calendar got me started looking through the
>pictures for the coming months again. The photographs really are
>excellent. One note of about an error in a caption though, the caption
>incorrectly says that the truss bridge in the background it the Lehigh
>Valley's. It is in fact the Lackawanna's Ithaca branch curved truss
>bridge across the Susquehanna River.
>
>This bridge was the one of the primary reasons that steam engines of the
>300 or 700 class on freight and 900 class on passenger trains were used
>until the end of steam. As for diesels, switchers were the only engines
>that could run on the branch and then according to the employee time
>table nothing bigger than say an SW-1 was supposed to be allowed. This
>is a curiosity since in Bob Bahrs Lackawanna engine assignment article,
>an NW-2 worked the Candor job that day. These were explicitly restricted
>in the early 50's. I don't have the ETT's for the mid 50's so maybe that
>changed. By 1957 the ETT doesn't even mention the Ithaca branch or the
>bridge restriction. Maybe they used that NW-2 because they didn't know
>not to. Loaded cars were restricted to 70 tons or less.
>
>Another interesting detail in the photograph is signal 2125. the
>position light target is one of 5 Telephone Train Order signals on the
>Buffalo division (Rule 509-J originally later 509 (i) ).
>
>Here is an trivia question for the list, evidently at least one other
>Telephone Train Order signal was put into service in the 50's. Can
>anyone name it?
>
>Regards,
>
>Will Shultz
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:06:23 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: (erielack) Eire Mainline
>
>Someone asked if the status of the old Erie main between Hornell and
>Corry had changed any. I asked a friend of mine out in Jamestown if he
>had heard anything. He told me that the local papers reported that New
>York State has granted NS the 10 year tax abatement they were asking
>for.
>
>What NS will do next is unclear but one of the stipulations for the
>abatement was to keep the line in service.
>
>Regards,
>
>Will Shultz
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:07:42 EST
>From: "Dlw1el2_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Calender
>
>In a message dated 2/28/99 10:02:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com" writes:
>
><< Here is an trivia question for the list, evidently at least one other
> Telephone Train Order signal was put into service in the 50's. Can
> anyone name it? >>
>Will
>We talking Buffalo Div only here? After what year?
>
>Bob
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:16:09 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Calender
>
>Sorry, let me clarify: Any division after 1950.
>
>Will
>
>"Dlw1el2_@_aol.com" wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 2/28/99 10:02:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> "wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com" writes:
>>
>> << Here is an trivia question for the list, evidently at least one other
>> Telephone Train Order signal was put into service in the 50's. Can
>> anyone name it? >>
>> Will
>> We talking Buffalo Div only here? After what year?
>>
>> Bob
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:19:49 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: (erielack) ELHS Calendar
>
>All
>
>Well blame it on sleep deprivation but the caption I was referring to
>was for the July photo.
>
>Will
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:44:43 -0500
>From: sheffield punch <"scottnyr_@_nac.net">
>Subject: (erielack) SD35's
>
>With all this talk of DL&W and Erie stuff it was about time somebody
>threw in something off topic so here it is. Can anybody tell me the
>wheelbase measurement of an SD35 from truck center to truck center.
>With that said, we now bring you back to your regularly scheduled EL
>list topics.
>
>Regards
>Scott L.
>
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:52:20 EST
>From: "Dlw1el2_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>
>Will
>
>A stab in the dark. Greendell NJ
>
>Bob
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:05:04 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>
>Bob,
>
>Absolutely correct! We have a winner! Unfortunately I don't have a prize
>except for furthering all of our knowledge a little bit about the DL&W.
>
>Regards,
>
>Will Shultz
>
>"Dlw1el2_@_aol.com" wrote:
>>
>> Will
>>
>> A stab in the dark. Greendell NJ
>>
>> Bob
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:23:32 EST
>From: "Dlw1el2_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>
>In a message dated 2/28/99 11:05:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com" writes:
>
><< Absolutely correct! We have a winner! Unfortunately I don't have a prize
> except for furthering all of our knowledge a little bit about the DL&W.
> >>
>
>Will
>What no trip to Vegas, or cruise the Bahamas? What kind of trivia question
>are you running here anyway?
>
>Bob
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>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:32:55 -0500
>From: William Shultz <"wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com">
>Subject: Re: (erielack) ELHS Trivia Queation
>
>A low budget one! Ok, how about a 36" Life-Like db fan?
>
>Will
>
>"Dlw1el2_@_aol.com" wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 2/28/99 11:05:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> "wshultz_@_clarityconnect.com" writes:
>>
>> << Absolutely correct! We have a winner! Unfortunately I don't have a
prize
>> except for furthering all of our knowledge a little bit about the DL&W.
>> >>
>>
>> Will
>> What no trip to Vegas, or cruise the Bahamas? What kind of trivia
question
>> are you running here anyway?
>>
>> Bob
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>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:58:05 EST
>From: "Lederer73_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) FW: EX EL SD45-2's CLOSER TO HOME
>
>Stevie
>I dont think that was an SD40.
>theres a few Conrail Gp40's running around dover Labeled SD40. 7887 I think
is
>one and 8831 or something. I just saw it the other day. My eyes popped out!
No
>such thing as a 4 wheel trucked sd40 is there? I think if Conrail sent
>anything that heavy up to Washington at least on the north side of the
>station, it would fall off the cliff. When I rode with Apgar in Oct on his
>last trip, I noticed Just how bad the rail was. Makes the M&E's Worst
stretch
>of rail look like class 1!!!
>- -Pat
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>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:59:56 EST
>From: "Lederer73_@_aol.com"
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Lantern for trade?
>
>eheheh
>I have lots of erie ones myself. Ide give em all up for a DLW. I use the
Erie
>ones to hold down a tarp in my garage.. heheh.
>
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