Re: (erielack) Erie-Lackawanna MU's - their original interior paint colors? -their original windows? (fwd)

[Derek Fenton <"drfenton_@_erols.com">]

THe MUs in Ridgefield have nice wood veneer underneath their cream
paint. So as far as I know, there was no paint color, only wood grain
and finish.

Derek Fenton

gelwood wrote:
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>  received this on my WEB site.  Reply to Eric and the site.
> 
> Thanks,
> George
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> > Does anyone know of, or remember, the correct original (early 1930's)
> > interior paint scheme for the Delaware, Lackawanna, & Western MU cars?
> > The ones I rode on at or near the end of 3000 volt .d.c. operation in
> > 1984 were painted in various colors inside and out, (with the exteriors
> > predominantly Pullman olive-green) but the oldest looking interior paint
> > scheme I found appeared to be in the motor cars with the original  (and
> > often very time-worn) varnished-rattan seats. These cars were painted a
> > fairly darkish cream on their ceilings and upper walls (surely dirtied
> > with age, but probably a rich deep cream color originally), - and a
> > distinctive deep reddish-brown (but more toward a deep red) from the
> > window sills (which were black) to the floor, on the main end walls and
> > platform doors, and on the seat frames (with black armrests) and seat
> > pedestals. The concrete floors, too, were dark red where people's feet
> > had not worn the paint away. Some of the high-roof control trailers from
> > 1919-1920 also had this scheme, although quite a few had been repainted
> > in newer, lighter colors (mostly shades of white with the seats re-done
> > in black or ocean-blue vinyl "naugahyde" material. I am wondering,
> > however, whether the first-mentioned colors date all the way back to
> > when the cars were new. Did anyone preserve these cars' paint and shop
> > records (which NJ Transit must have inherited from the Erie-Lackawanna)
> > when these cars were retired from service? In their heyday railroads
> > often relied on DuPont Dulux automotive paint enamels which were then
> > the industry standard, if that is any help.
> >            Anyone who can provide info. would be very much appreciated.
> > Thank you.
> >                                   Eric Talbot, Chicago, IL
> >


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