received this on my WEB site. Reply to Eric and the site. Thanks, George Forwarded message: > From "erict_@_ais.net" Tue Oct 6 23:01:59 1998 > X-Authentication-Warning: eagle.ais.net: Host dyn-tc04-30.chi.ais.net [207.154.167.30] claimed to be ais.net > Message-ID: <"361AF862.EF74D3D4_@_ais.net"> > Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:13:06 -0700 > From: Eric Talbot <"erict_@_ais.net"> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: "gelwood_@_dnaco.net" > Subject: Erie-Lackawanna MU's - their original interior paint colors? -their original windows? > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------79C69BCA937C33A7B01E0170" > > > --------------79C69BCA937C33A7B01E0170 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Does anyone know of, or remember, the correct original (early 1930's) > interior paint scheme for the Delaware, Lackawanna, & Western MU cars? > The ones I rode on at or near the end of 3000 volt .d.c. operation in > 1984 were painted in various colors inside and out, (with the exteriors > predominantly Pullman olive-green) but the oldest looking interior paint > scheme I found appeared to be in the motor cars with the original (and > often very time-worn) varnished-rattan seats. These cars were painted a > fairly darkish cream on their ceilings and upper walls (surely dirtied > with age, but probably a rich deep cream color originally), - and a > distinctive deep reddish-brown (but more toward a deep red) from the > window sills (which were black) to the floor, on the main end walls and > platform doors, and on the seat frames (with black armrests) and seat > pedestals. The concrete floors, too, were dark red where people's feet > had not worn the paint away. Some of the high-roof control trailers from > 1919-1920 also had this scheme, although quite a few had been repainted > in newer, lighter colors (mostly shades of white with the seats re-done > in black or ocean-blue vinyl "naugahyde" material. I am wondering, > however, whether the first-mentioned colors date all the way back to > when the cars were new. Did anyone preserve these cars' paint and shop > records (which NJ Transit must have inherited from the Erie-Lackawanna) > when these cars were retired from service? In their heyday railroads > often relied on DuPont Dulux automotive paint enamels which were then > the industry standard, if that is any help. > Anyone who can provide info. would be very much appreciated. > Thank you. > Eric Talbot, Chicago, IL > > p.s. Were the window sash in these cars originally wooden? I know NJ > Transit, or perhaps Conrail earlier, replaced the original windows, > whatever they were, with aluminum sash and Lexan "glass" to reduce > maintenance and vandalism costs. > > --------------79C69BCA937C33A7B01E0170 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML> > Does anyone know of, or remember, the correct original (early 1930's)<U> > interior</U> paint scheme for the <U>Delaware, Lackawanna, & Western > MU cars</U>? The ones I rode on at or near the end of 3000 volt .d.c. operation > in 1984 were painted in various colors inside and out, (with the exteriors > predominantly Pullman olive-green) but the oldest looking interior paint > scheme I found appeared to be in the motor cars with the original > (and often very time-worn) varnished-rattan seats. These cars were painted > a fairly darkish cream on their ceilings and upper walls (surely dirtied > with age, but probably a rich deep cream color originally), - and a distinctive > deep reddish-brown (but more toward a deep red) from the window sills (which > were black) to the floor, on the main end walls and platform doors, and > on the seat frames (with black armrests) and seat pedestals. The concrete > floors, too, were dark red where people's feet had not worn the paint away. > Some of the high-roof control trailers from 1919-1920 also had this scheme, > although quite a few had been repainted in newer, lighter colors (mostly > shades of white with the seats re-done in black or ocean-blue vinyl "naugahyde" > material. I am wondering, however, whether the first-mentioned colors date > all the way back to when the cars were new. Did anyone preserve these cars' > paint and shop records (which NJ Transit must have inherited from the Erie-Lackawanna) > when these cars were retired from service? In their heyday railroads often > relied on DuPont Dulux automotive paint enamels which were then the industry > standard, if that is any help. > <BR> Anyone > who can provide info. would be very much appreciated. Thank you. > <BR> > Eric Talbot, Chicago, IL > <P>p.s. Were the window sash in these cars originally wooden? I know NJ > Transit, or perhaps Conrail earlier, replaced the original windows, whatever > they were, with aluminum sash and Lexan "glass" to reduce maintenance and > vandalism costs.</HTML> > > --------------79C69BCA937C33A7B01E0170-- > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the erielack photopage at http://el-list.railfan.net ------------------------------
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