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RE: (erielack) Life-Like Erie PA's in black/yellow



>> I seem to remember a picture of a black & yellow EL Traninmaster
>> transition
>> paint scheme.  I wish some manufacturer would paint that one.
>>
>Actually not a transition but a fullfledged EL scheme.  When the EL was
>formed, the
>original scheme was a modification of the ERIE black and yellow.  The
>C424s came from
>the factory in this scheme.  This scheme didn't last too long and the
>DL&W version was
>adopted and equipment repainted in the much more familiar EL maroon gray
>yellow.
>
>Anyone know how long the black and yellow lasted as the "official"
>scheme?  What was the
>reason for the change?


As a side note, there were several variations of the GMY paint on the
Trainmasters. The primary difference was the width of the maroon stripe.
Some units had a "wide stripe" that extended up to the halfway point on the
cab windows. The smaller stripe version only extended up as far as the
bottom of the cab windows. At least one unit (1853) also had large numbers
on the top of the ends of the unit.

Of course, there were also differences in the font used on the cab number,
as well as placement of the word "ERIE LACKAWANNA" - most had the yellow
Gothic on the maroon band, while some had maroon Roman lettering on the gray
band below the walkway (and one, 1857, wore maroon GOTHIC lettering under
the walkway for a time!) Early on in the lives of these units, there were
Lackawanna-eque variations as well - check out p. 59 in "EL In Color -
Volume 4"

The freight scheme units were fairly consistent in terms of paint, with one
glaring exception - the 1860 had a solid yellow end on its long hood,
instead of the yellow "bowing inward" end as on the other freight scheme
units. Note that some units never received GMY paint (1852, 1856, 1858,
1859, ande 1860) - please let me know if you have photos of these latter
units in GMY!

So, here's a table of schemes - mostly complete, but corrections/additions
are gladly accepted!

1850	GMY "wide stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow Gothic
1851	Black Freight Scheme
	GMY "wide stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow Gothic
1852	Black Freight Scheme
1853	GMY "narrow stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow Gothic
1854	GMY "wide stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in maroon Roman
1855	GMY "narrow stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow Gothic
1856	Black Freight Scheme
1857	GMY "narrow stripe" - Condensed Gothic cab numbers, roadname in maroon
Gothic
	GMY "narrow stripe" - Condensed Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow
Gothic
1858	Black Freight Scheme
1859	Black Freight Scheme
1860	Black Freight Scheme
1861	GMY "wide stripe" - Gothic cab numbers, roadname in yellow Gothic

	- Paul


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